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  • Tychoxii [he/him, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    two soviet soldiers must talk to each other about something else than how america saved the day?

  • Spartacist [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I’m gonna sound like a liberal here, but movies aren’t historical representations of fact. They’re stories. Let’s take a theoretical war story idea I once had, about a submarine crew escaping the fall of the Philippines and the DEI as ABDACOM collapses around them. Where in the story would I have Captain Belsen turn to the camera and say “The war was primarily won by the soviet efforts at Kursk, Stalingrad, and Bagration”? I can’t fit that in there.

      • Spartacist [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        There is a colossal imbalance, I agree. That’s why I also have several stories set in the USSR during the same time period. If you want, I can give summaries

      • KurdKobein [any]
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        3 years ago

        I think the difference here is that it makes a lot of sense for US and UK to prioritise movies focusing on theatres US and UK soldiers fought in. I don't recall any Soviet war films focusing on Allies or talking about importance of Lendlease.

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      why you gotta be right like this? I had a nice head of outrage going

    • ViveLaCommune [any]
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      3 years ago

      American movies are stories*

      don't need no stories in my dear cinema, nor shitty exposition dialogue

        • ViveLaCommune [any]
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          3 years ago

          Oh no, I mean, the great american tradition (ugh) of making movies is entirely based on telling a "story", but the audiovisual medium of time sculpting that is cinema is so much more. I'm playing on words, but it annoys me to no end that cinema is a limited thing and only entertainment in the heads of so many. Of course it only exists in our industrial times and is strongly linked to them, and it hardly thrives outside of the system (working on it though, like all of the other desperate fuckers), but it's a whole new eye in the matter, like Vertov would say. It's the most urgent manifestation of how our modern Thought works, Deleuze could say, I guess. It's more. You don't have to be a storyteller to make cinema. You're free from the American formula. Anyway, you see what I mean ? I just want to watch the American movie industry burned to the ground.

  • Dyno [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Or if the cast contains precisely zero Russian actors and it was banned in the former USSR.

    Seriously though, is there still some kind of Hollywood cold war? It's farcical the amount of films about or set in Russia with absolutely no Russian cast members

    • KurdKobein [any]
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      3 years ago

      You mean like ethnically Russian or like Russian citizens? I dunno, I'm not sure it's a problem. Like USSR made a bunch of movies about Russian spies in Nazi Germany without any German actors.