I'll probably have an answer

  • pepe_silvia96 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    how would one rob a modern train the way they robbed trains in the ol' wild west?

    • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Coalbrookdale (Trevithick, 1802)

      Pen-y-darren Ironworks locomotive

      Catch Me Who Can

      Salamanca

      Puffing Billy

      Killingworth series

      Locomotion #1

      Rocket (famously used at the Rainhill Trials)

      Stourbridge Lion

      John Bull

      Tom Thumb

      DeWitt Clinton

      The Adler

      The Austria

      The following are steam locomotives categorized using the Whyte notation

      0-2-2 Northumbrian

      2-2-0 Planet

      2-2-2 Patentee, Single, Jenny Lind

      2-2-4 Aerolite

      4-2-0 Jervis

      4-2-2 Bicycle, Iron Duke, Single

      4-2-4 Huntington

      6-2-0 Crampton

      0-4-0 Four-coupled

      0-4-0+4 Four-coupled as used on railmotors

      0-4-2 Olomana

      0-4-4 Forney

      2-4-0 Porter, 'Old English'

      2-4-2 Columbia

      2-4-4 Boston

      4-4-0 American eight-wheeler

      4-4-2 Atlantic

      4-4-4 Reading

      0-3-0 (one driving wheel per axle; used on Patiala State Monorail Trainways and also on the Listowel and Ballybunion Railway)

      0-6-0 Six-coupled, Bourbonnais (France), USRA 0-6-0 (United States)

      0-6-2 Branchliner, Webb

      0-6-4 Forney six-coupled

      0-6-6

      2-6-0 Mogul

      2-6-2 Prairie

      2-6-4 Adriatic

      2-6-6 Suburban

      4-6-0 Ten-wheeler (not Britain)

      4-6-2 Pacific

      4-6-4 Hudson, Baltic

      0-8-0 Eight-coupled, USRA 0-8-0 (United States)

      0-8-2 River Irt

      0-8-4 London

      2-8-0 Consolidation

      2-8-2 Mikado, Mike, MacArthur

      2-8-4 Berkshire, Kanawha

      2-8-6 Used only on four Mason Bogie locomotives

      4-8-0 Twelve Wheeler

      4-8-2 Mountain, Mohawk (NYC)

      4-8-4 Northern, Niagara, Confederation, Dixie, Greenbrier, Pocono, Potomac, Golden State (Southern Pacific), Western, Laurentian (Delaware & Hudson Railroad), General, Wyoming (Lehigh Valley), Governor, Big Apple, GS Series "Daylight" (Southern Pacific)

      4-8-6 Proposed by Lima, never built

      6-8-6 (PRR S2 steam turbine locomotive)

      0-10-0 Ten-coupled, Decapod

      0-10-2 Union

      2-10-0 Decapod, Russian Decapod

      2-10-2 Santa Fe, Central, Decapod (only on the Southern Pacific)

      2-10-4 Texas, Colorado (CB&Q), Selkirk (Canada)

      4-10-0 Mastodon

      4-10-2 Reid Tenwheeler

      0-12-0 Twelve-coupled

      2-12-0 Centipede

      2-12-2 Javanic

      2-12-4 Bulgaria

      2-12-6 Proposed by Lima, never built

      4-12-2 Union Pacific

      4-14-4 AA20

      Duplex locomotives

      4-4-4-4 (PRR T1)[36]

      6-4-4-6 (PRR S1)[37] 1

      4-4-6-4 (PRR Q2)[38]

      4-6-4-4 (PRR Q1)

      Articulated locomotives (simple and compound)

      0-4-4-0 Bavarian BB II

      2-4-4-0 Vivarais

      0-4-4-2 Swiss

      2-4-4-2

      4-4-6-2 AT&SF

      0-6-6-0 Erie

      2-6-6-0 Denver & Salt Lake

      2-6-6-2 C&O/N&W. C&O Class H-2 thru H-5. Alco 1912.

      2-6-6-4 Norfolk & Western

      2-6-6-6 Allegheny

      4-6-6-2 (Southern Pacific class AM-2)

      4-6-6-4 Challenger

      2-6-8-0 (Southern Railway, Great Northern Railway)

      0-8-8-0 Angus

      2-8-8-0 Bull Moose

      2-8-8-2 Chesapeake, Norfolk & Western

      2-8-8-4 Yellowstone

      4-8-8-2 Southern Pacific cab forward classes AC-4 through AC-12 (except AC-9)

      4-8-8-4 Big Boy

      2-10-10-2 (Santa Fe and Virginian railroads)

      2-8-8-8-2 Triplex (Erie RR)

      2-8-8-8-4 Triplex (Virginian RR)

      Garratt articulated locomotives

      0-4-0+0-4-0 Welsh Highland

      0-6-0+0-6-0 Kitson Meyer

      2-4-0+0-4-2 Double Porter

      2-4-2+2-4-2 Double Columbia

      2-6-0+0-6-2 Double Mogul

      2-6-2+2-6-2 Double Prairie

      2-8-0+0-8-2 Double Consolidation

      2-8-2+2-8-2 Double Mikado

      4-4-2+2-4-4 Double Atlantic

      4-6-0+0-6-4 Mogyana

      4-6-2+2-6-4 Double Pacific

      4-6-4+4-6-4 Double Baltic, Double Hudson

      4-8-0+0-8-4 Double Mastodon

      4-8-2+2-8-4 Double Mountain

      4-8-4+4-8-4 Double Northern

  • Galli [comrade/them]
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    13
    3 years ago

    Why do my trains in factorio always say "no path" even though they already drove over it and just refuse to return on the exact same track?

      • Galli [comrade/them]
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        14
        3 years ago

        you're right, openttd is opensource and not about imperialist bug genocide.

    • ToastGhost [he/him]
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      1
      3 years ago

      cuz you have one headed trains and no way for them to loop around? trains cant back up in automatic mode, they need another locomotive facing the other way.

      Im probably misunderstanding your question tho, a screenshot would be helpful.

  • Multihedra [he/him]
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    11
    3 years ago

    How do train watchers figure out train schedules—by experience, or is there a website that keeps track of where trains are?

    I ask because I was driving home from a rather rural place, and I saw two teens just waiting by some railroad tracks in the distance. As I got closer, the gates came down and they whipped out their phones to record it. I saw them again once or twice staking out the tracks, but never got stopped again.

    I’m curious if you have any insight into whether they got lucky, or if there was a resource they could have used to know roughly when a train would arrive

    • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Freight schedules aren't public information. It's a combination of experience and radios. Some dedicated railfans will buy radio scanners so that they can hear about train movements. Passenger rail is much simpler; just find the schedule.

      Most trainwatching is just luck or knowing which lines are busier than others.

      • Multihedra [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Ah, that makes sense and is really cool; I knew people used CB radios to listen in on truckers, I hadn’t considered that it was also possible to do something similar for trains.

        I don’t know much about trains, but I’m pretty confident this was freight rail, since there are very very few passenger rails near me—especially out in the country

    • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I'm going to outsource this question to one Gareth Dennis, friend of the WTYP pod.

      https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzA-8fUrw2C5cRcP9gO5BwA

      https://twitter.com/GarethDennis?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

      The quick answer I found on Quora was that rails tend to need replacing the most on curves on busy lines, every 2-3 years. Little used sidings can last a century.

    • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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      hexbear
      14
      3 years ago

      Train good because car ceases to be car when on rails and coupled into train. Train good even when made of cars because now less cars on road.

    • luka467 [they/them,he/him]
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      3 years ago

      The APT still holds the record for fastest journey time between London and Glasgow in normal service at just under 4 hours, so you're absolutely justified in feeling sad about it not working out.

      The real tragedy is that the UK currently uses the same tilting tech for trains on the WCML, just worse.

    • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Step 1: Nationalize the railroads. This has been done before; it was done temporarily during WWI. Let's do it again. Also bring back Conrail.

      Step 2: Utilize existing railway equipment to bring back sleeper trains to more destinations around the US

      Step 3: Massive new orders of locomotives and rolling stock; this will allow more frequent trains and better service

      Step 4: Fix up local bus networks to be more frequent so that they connect to the stations

      Step 5: Repair old infrastructure- Fix the bridges, replace outdated signals, fix up old lines and transit systems

      Step 6: New infrastructure; Electrify rail lines across the US, build new high speed rail lines, bring back interurbans, add more tracks to existing lines, build more urban rail

  • ButtBidet [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Why the fuck is amtrak never able to stay financially solvent and also why can't they ever expand and improve their rails?

    • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Amtrak is a private company quasi-public corporation that is bailed out every year by the US government. They own almost none of the track that they run on, except for the Northeast Corridor (where I live) and a couple other lines. They make a profit on the NEC. The rest of the network is owned by freight railroads, who are incentivized to keep their trains slow (freight is very patient) and downsized to reduce maintenance costs. This means trains capped at 79 mph in most places running on single-track lines. Freight companies are required by law to clear the main line for Amtrak, but this law is very shoddily enforced. Delays also beget delays, so if one railroad screws up or intentionally blocks the main line, the rest of the line is also delayed because the time slot is now different. This is what leads to Amtrak often being multiple hours off schedule; for freight "on-schedule" is much more loose.

      • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Amtrak is a private company that is bailed out every year by the US government.

        Unless you are being metaphorical: Amtrak is wholly owned by the USDOT, they are just forced to operate like a private company.

  • buh [any]
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    6
    3 years ago

    Can you live on a train long term?

    • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Absolutely. In Ye Olde Days our favorite war criminals used to campaign for president by train, leading them to live onboard for a while. Here's a picture of a social imperialist doing a campaign of his own. Here's one featuring Gerald Ford. And let's not forget that time :warren-snake-green: did a whistle stop tour but couldn't get ahold of an observation car.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whistle_stop_train_tour

    • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Train hopping is very much still a thing, and very much illegal and dangerous. I won't stop you though, so if you want to do so learn railroad safety, scour the internet, learn from the hobos, and avoid the railroad cops. If that's too much try reserving Amtrak seats a month or more in advance, they work like airline tickets.

    • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      DO NOT TOUCH THE THIRD RAIL. THIS IS WHERE THE TRAIN'S POWER COMES FROM AND IT WILL KILL YOU

      In London this may be harder, there are 4 rails.

      Remove yourself from the tracks as quickly as possible. Yell and scream for help. Try and see if you can get the trains to stop. Best solution is to prevent the problem in the first place: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platform_screen_doors