China isn't going to become the world's sole superpower (would be cool if it did), if the US falls the center of global capital shifts back to Europe, western capitalist's would rather inaugurate World War III before they'd let china get its hands on the global reserve currency
And that's to say nothing of the enormous cultural backlash China would face from the west, you can already see the seeds of it developing now
I have a lower opinion of European power globally. The EU has made itself subservient to the US in many ways, and that weakening of their military power in particular will make it much harder for Europe to rise up as a rival. Not to mention that Europe is not at all a single entity - many large European countries (Italy, Greece, Spain, maybe France) would happily align themselves with China in the power shift I'm predicting.
And even if I'm wrong, it'll be a much more even split of power, and that's better than what we have now.
Right. China has, smartly, been making a lot of inroads in Southern Europe: Spain, Italy, and Greece are high population countries (in European terms) that have been fucked by the EU's neoliberalism and have a history of socialist politics and/or diplomacy with the USSR during the cold war. They are perfect allies for China. These moves demonstrate the EU's long-term inability to act as a unified global power. Not to mention with the UK leaving, the EU has lost its second largest and most economically important member.
Unlike Alabama greece has a huge navy for its size,lots more people than Alabama, a better geographical position and is a weak link in the EU. Loosing Greece could also mean the loss of other southern european countries.
The size of the Greek navy is completely irrelevant as is the population size and I don't know why you lot assume I'm talking specifically about the EU I'm talking about Europe as a whole
China can not become a superpower without the US collapsing and the global reserve currency being pegged to the renminbi, for western capital even a weakened Euro is preferable to the vagaries of the Chinese system
You gotta tell me how in hell the EU is irrelevant when talking about Europe, remeber that Greece is a member state. As for the currency The EU is too weak to be a superpower. it doesn't have an army, it has many currencies, it has already lost an important member state and risked losing others already and there's way too many rivalries inside of it to work properly as an hegemon superpower. You know malta could decide to veto every single proposal if they wanted to right?
I didn't say the EU was irrelevant I said I was talking about Europe as a whole which will remain powerful whether the EU survives the decade or not
And like I said a historically a divided Europe has never stopped the continent from dominating global politics whether it's the Euro or the next best European currency the global reserve currency will never shift to Asia
If the US falls there is only one place western capital can migrate to and that's Europe and with the steady rise of Far-right Euro parties we can already see the outline of a nationalist neo-imperial Europe potentially empowered by American capital flight and I see no evidence that Spain, France or Italy would ever align culturally and politically against their largest continental trading partners
And the fact Europe is divided is a mute point, at the height of European imperialism Europe was far more fractured then it is today, that didn't stop the continent from dominating global politics
During the height of European imperialism the only non-white power in the world was Japan. China is already second only to the US today in global power, and many non-white countries play major roles on the world stage.
The economies of non-white countries still play a complementary role in relation to Europe and the anglosphere and Japan is no longer a global hegemon which leaves only China and India as the potential rivals, but no one is gonna claim India is gonna become a superpower with a straight face, China is outnumbered on all factors that actually matter
China isn't going to become the world's sole superpower (would be cool if it did), if the US falls the center of global capital shifts back to Europe, western capitalist's would rather inaugurate World War III before they'd let china get its hands on the global reserve currency
And that's to say nothing of the enormous cultural backlash China would face from the west, you can already see the seeds of it developing now
I have a lower opinion of European power globally. The EU has made itself subservient to the US in many ways, and that weakening of their military power in particular will make it much harder for Europe to rise up as a rival. Not to mention that Europe is not at all a single entity - many large European countries (Italy, Greece, Spain, maybe France) would happily align themselves with China in the power shift I'm predicting.
And even if I'm wrong, it'll be a much more even split of power, and that's better than what we have now.
Greece is already part of the belt and road initiative so...
Right. China has, smartly, been making a lot of inroads in Southern Europe: Spain, Italy, and Greece are high population countries (in European terms) that have been fucked by the EU's neoliberalism and have a history of socialist politics and/or diplomacy with the USSR during the cold war. They are perfect allies for China. These moves demonstrate the EU's long-term inability to act as a unified global power. Not to mention with the UK leaving, the EU has lost its second largest and most economically important member.
Greece's economy is the size of Alabama's, literally who cares
Unlike Alabama greece has a huge navy for its size,lots more people than Alabama, a better geographical position and is a weak link in the EU. Loosing Greece could also mean the loss of other southern european countries.
The size of the Greek navy is completely irrelevant as is the population size and I don't know why you lot assume I'm talking specifically about the EU I'm talking about Europe as a whole
China can not become a superpower without the US collapsing and the global reserve currency being pegged to the renminbi, for western capital even a weakened Euro is preferable to the vagaries of the Chinese system
You gotta tell me how in hell the EU is irrelevant when talking about Europe, remeber that Greece is a member state. As for the currency The EU is too weak to be a superpower. it doesn't have an army, it has many currencies, it has already lost an important member state and risked losing others already and there's way too many rivalries inside of it to work properly as an hegemon superpower. You know malta could decide to veto every single proposal if they wanted to right?
I didn't say the EU was irrelevant I said I was talking about Europe as a whole which will remain powerful whether the EU survives the decade or not And like I said a historically a divided Europe has never stopped the continent from dominating global politics whether it's the Euro or the next best European currency the global reserve currency will never shift to Asia
If the US falls there is only one place western capital can migrate to and that's Europe and with the steady rise of Far-right Euro parties we can already see the outline of a nationalist neo-imperial Europe potentially empowered by American capital flight and I see no evidence that Spain, France or Italy would ever align culturally and politically against their largest continental trading partners
And the fact Europe is divided is a mute point, at the height of European imperialism Europe was far more fractured then it is today, that didn't stop the continent from dominating global politics
During the height of European imperialism the only non-white power in the world was Japan. China is already second only to the US today in global power, and many non-white countries play major roles on the world stage.
The economies of non-white countries still play a complementary role in relation to Europe and the anglosphere and Japan is no longer a global hegemon which leaves only China and India as the potential rivals, but no one is gonna claim India is gonna become a superpower with a straight face, China is outnumbered on all factors that actually matter