That's a fair criticism for the retention side. I don't disagree that retention can be improved and that some element of user-fatigue due to over-expectations of their leftist credentials and self-improvement might be playing a role in that.
What you must understand however is that growth on a site like this is actually made up of 3 parts:
Acquisition - This is the part where we get users to come here from somewhere else, but before they have made an account.
Conversion - This is the part where the user is convinced to actually make an account.
Retention - This is the part where the user is convinced to continue using the site longer than 1 or 2 days after making their account.
These 3 parts come together to form the whole. I don't disagree with you that retention issues could be improved, but in terms of "growth" as it were my point was really about the Acquisition part. Chapo has almost no Acquisition going on.
Retention and Acquisition are coupled. Each person retained is a potential evangelist, and each person driven off is a potential gainsayer.
A bunch of goofballs from the original subreddit didn't mesh well here, for better or ill, and now they're easily found typical diaspora haunts, and when a potential proponent of this site talks it up, it gets criticized.
I've been monitoring redditsearch.io results for this website since it got launched, and typically, any positive mention is quickly met with a criticism, justified or not.
I agree that they're coupled but only in so much as for every 1000 users you might find 1 or 2 that perform more Acquisition regularly. Where do you see the criticisms? I might need to go hunting and collating that information into something useable and useful to look at and suggest changes. In every instance where I have done advertising for the site I've not seen it a single time other than chuds doing their whole "lol chapotards" shtick. Getting site critique when mentioning the site is not really my experience. Maybe once or twice in Discord but those people were literally repeating wrecker stuff and clearly had come into contact with wreckers spreading bs.
That's our public image? Is 90% of it wrecker shit? Sure; but a new potential user doesn't know that.
Take for example Raddle. Now I don't know anything about Raddle. But I've never been tempted to check it out because anytime it gets mentioned it devolves into two people yelling at each other. That might not be fair to the hard-working Raddle team, but what can you do.
Hmm. This seems grossly incomplete. It doesn't include anything I've posted, even when I adjust the search for more specific words I use when advertising it doesn't include most of my posts... Strange. This version lets you search specific authors btw: https://camas.github.io/reddit-search/
The version you linked used to let you search by author but removed the functionality at reddit's request.
I don't know what could be going on; the most recent results on both of them seem to match up to me. I'm familiar with both of them and to my knowledge they pull from the same database.
Interesting. It should show up for the full URL too. It seems just a little bit scuffed. It's interesting that it's missing some of these comments because they're extremely high-value ones stickied to major threads that are reaching /r/all.
These threads are mainly responsible for all the libs here lately. You're welcome. :che-smile:
That's a fair criticism for the retention side. I don't disagree that retention can be improved and that some element of user-fatigue due to over-expectations of their leftist credentials and self-improvement might be playing a role in that.
What you must understand however is that growth on a site like this is actually made up of 3 parts:
Acquisition - This is the part where we get users to come here from somewhere else, but before they have made an account.
Conversion - This is the part where the user is convinced to actually make an account.
Retention - This is the part where the user is convinced to continue using the site longer than 1 or 2 days after making their account.
These 3 parts come together to form the whole. I don't disagree with you that retention issues could be improved, but in terms of "growth" as it were my point was really about the Acquisition part. Chapo has almost no Acquisition going on.
Retention and Acquisition are coupled. Each person retained is a potential evangelist, and each person driven off is a potential gainsayer.
A bunch of goofballs from the original subreddit didn't mesh well here, for better or ill, and now they're easily found typical diaspora haunts, and when a potential proponent of this site talks it up, it gets criticized.
I've been monitoring redditsearch.io results for this website since it got launched, and typically, any positive mention is quickly met with a criticism, justified or not.
I agree that they're coupled but only in so much as for every 1000 users you might find 1 or 2 that perform more Acquisition regularly. Where do you see the criticisms? I might need to go hunting and collating that information into something useable and useful to look at and suggest changes. In every instance where I have done advertising for the site I've not seen it a single time other than chuds doing their whole "lol chapotards" shtick. Getting site critique when mentioning the site is not really my experience. Maybe once or twice in Discord but those people were literally repeating wrecker stuff and clearly had come into contact with wreckers spreading bs.
Just look through here.
That's our public image? Is 90% of it wrecker shit? Sure; but a new potential user doesn't know that.
Take for example Raddle. Now I don't know anything about Raddle. But I've never been tempted to check it out because anytime it gets mentioned it devolves into two people yelling at each other. That might not be fair to the hard-working Raddle team, but what can you do.
Hmm. This seems grossly incomplete. It doesn't include anything I've posted, even when I adjust the search for more specific words I use when advertising it doesn't include most of my posts... Strange. This version lets you search specific authors btw: https://camas.github.io/reddit-search/
The version you linked used to let you search by author but removed the functionality at reddit's request.
I don't know what could be going on; the most recent results on both of them seem to match up to me. I'm familiar with both of them and to my knowledge they pull from the same database.
Oh yeah they'll definitely match up, they both use pushshift, it's the same database. What I'm getting at is that it's incomplete.
Do you see these posts in there? I don't. Even when I explicitly change it to "chacha". Some content just appears to be not getting picked up at all.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRightCantMeme/comments/lw4mtt/whats_funny_is_literally_the_only_people_ive_seen/gphgovh/
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRightCantMeme/comments/lva84r/weird_problem/gpcxtwi/
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRightCantMeme/comments/luer1l/checkmate/gp8cbpf/
Somethings funky with the "chacha" results in general; a bunch of mentions on some days, but with large gaps of no mentions over several days. . Not sure if the term is so generic that there's just too many of them to index all of them or what.
Interesting. It should show up for the full URL too. It seems just a little bit scuffed. It's interesting that it's missing some of these comments because they're extremely high-value ones stickied to major threads that are reaching /r/all.
These threads are mainly responsible for all the libs here lately. You're welcome. :che-smile:
As always, my solution is the same; acknowledge the Chinese finger trap nature of the problem, open a few pints, and just try to have fun.
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