Just discovered that admins are removing resource-content on the subreddit. Both the DPRK and China megathreads that are in the sidebar have been removed, probably others too.
I doubt this is unique to only /r/communism, /r/communism101 is probably going to be hit as well.
The calibrated statement from the Biden campaign about Philly, assigning exactly 60% (by line count) of the moral reproach to the protesters was a pretty clear tell that you won't be getting one.
They're way too ban happy to anyone not straight down the line Pro-Soviet ML, but they're comrades.
I'd be slightly wary, when I got banned they also threw a tonne of insults my way about my activity in CTH and how we're not comrades. I really don't think they like us very much.
I don't think they like anyone very much.
But as long as they can't pull a coup a simple olive branch in the name of left unity isn't beyond consideration.
Yeah it's worth offering them a board, or directing them towards lemmygrad, or maybe some technical advice in setting up an instance.
I mod a few default subreddits, so I can definitely understand why they don't like anyone. Modding on reddit is the easiest way to turn into a very angry person.
I basically align with them politically 100% but was banned for posting a sarcastic comment once lol
I mean yeah it is funny when you write it down but I actually liked participating there and was real upset when they trolled me in modmail during my attempt over a period of many days to get unbanned.
They didn't like me acting like he is a comrade. I think they might be Americans and not understand the British situation fully? Or they're just reaaaally hardline on "you're not a communist if you're standing on socdem policies". I can understand the latter but think it's excessive over-moderation. I'm happy to call him a revisionist or an opportunist if you like but he definitely wants something much further left than socdem but simply recognised that was non-viable in the current UK and made an attempt at something viable. It's not like what you run on matters in the UK anyway, a majority basically lets you do whatever the fuck you want regardless of what's in the manifesto, the manifesto just lets you skip the need to wait on the roadblocks the lords put up on various issues.
I was banned for comparing the common estimated number of gulag inmates with the US prison population.😁
It does. That was an antiamerican argument. I was banned simply for mentioning the number.
Er no bud the US locks up more people than the height of the Soviet gulag period (which was just before ww2)
It imprisons more people than any civilisation that has ever existed: China, Iran, russia or DPRK and yes Soviet Union at height of the gulag period
Over all, there are now more people under ‘correctional supervision’ in America–more than 6 million–,” writes Gopnik, “than were in the Gulag Archipelago under Stalin at its height.” Correctional supervision means adults on probation, in jail or prison, and on parole. Zakaria follows Gopnik’s incantation of Stalinism with some horrifying figures:
https://srbpodcast.org/2013/05/11/us-prison-industrial-complex-versus-the-stalinist-gulag/
Over all, there are now more people under “correctional supervision” in America—more than six million—than were in the Gulag Archipelago under Stalin at its height.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/01/30/the-caging-of-america
non paywall archive https://web.archive.org/web/20200115083649/https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/01/30/the-caging-of-america
Surely it's the same though as there were varying degrees of gulags - some for petty criminals and thieves were essentially just small villages miles from anything in Siberia where they led relatively "free" lifestyles and were allowed to take their families etc.
Probation/parole can hardly be considered freedom as you're still undersupervision and required to check into a police station or have a parole officer visit you etc.
I actually wrote a comment on this here in the past: https://hexbear.net/post/22867/comment/168034
Copying it because for some reason I can see that post in my post history but it won't load?
When ignoring the period of 1941-1944 (nazi occupation of the soviet union and ww2) where 70% of all deaths in gulags occurred, the program actually had an incredibly low death rate for its time. In fact, by 1953 the gulag system had a LOWER death rate than current modern day US prisons have. Fact.
According to this study the gulag deaths were approximately 830,000 from 1934 to 1953. As I said above however, it is important to know that 70% of all these deaths occurred between 1941 and 1944 (included) so they can be attributed to difficulties from the War Period and nazi occupation. Also, it's important to note that antibiotics didn't become available until after WW2, this contributes significantly to earlier higher death figures.
To put things into perspective. Using the same source as above for the USSR, and this report from the Bureau of Justice Statistics we can say that Mortality in the gulag in 1953 (236 deaths per 100,000 prisoners) was lower than mortality in US prisons today, both in state prisons (303 deaths per 100,000 prisoners) and federal prisons (252 deaths per 100,000 prisoners).
Feel free to double check these numbers(you should check anyone's numbers always). I know it's surprising to hear that as far back as 1953 they were better, but it is absolutely correct. I had to double check it too.
I'm ML and have been banned from their a few times. I DM'd one of the mods about it and they said they have a massive number of automod rules and are ban happy due to the subreddit being a focal point for trolls and brigades. My ancom friend trashed the USSR in a comment but they unbanned him and undeleted his comment after he messaged them. I think it's just difficult to separate criticism from a left-wing perspective and just outright arguing on the internet.
From what I've heard on other subs, they'll unban almost any flavor of leftist except for post-left.
They're definitely sectarian, but I think the ban happiness comes from the constant troll brigades.
edit: nevermind, sounds like they’re hella sectarian lol
Yeah I can't tell if they're actually sectarian or if they just get off on banning fellow communists. A distinction without a difference, I guess.
might still be worth opening a dialogue, even if they themselves wouldn't fit. they probably do want years of work preserved and a path for getting people information, even if they do see us as ultimately the same as reddit or misguided or whatever.
I'd be down to help import some of their good resources over to a new comm.
I archived China Megathread 2. Can't find a "China Megathread 1", is that what was deleted? Anybody else have archives?
i archived this one too just in case
https://web.archive.org/web/20201111154740/https://www.reddit.com/r/communism/comments/jbcomt/studying_china_a_resource_for_political_economy/
Do remember that archive.org sometimes excludes and removes things.
https://theoutline.com/post/4653/the-internet-s-collective-memory-is-unstable-as-hell
https://gizmodo.com/when-the-internet-archive-forgets-1830462131
https://archiveteam.org/index.php/List_of_websites_excluded_from_the_Wayback_MachineThey are mostly reliable but if there is something you really care about then keep a local copy.
An example: https://web.archive.org/web/http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/fall_01_20
Same page can be found here: http://archive.is/oXDEt (controversial but good story if you can read past its title)
The media (including social media) is a fully integrated component of the bourgeois state. The revolution will not be tweeted.
The revolution will not be
tweetedheckin' good boy doggo pupper posted.
how would i back stuff up i want to save this one https://www.reddit.com/r/communism/comments/c4j3xl/useful_studies_and_sources_for_debating/
go to archive.is and back up the link, then bookmark the archive link.
I just archived it (last archived 3 mo's ago) https://archive.is/5nVuf
Quick question: every time I try to use archive links I see this. This happens on firefox and brave with no blockers active (uBlock Origin, uMatrix, Privacy Badger, userscripts, hosts file ALL disabled completely on that domain). Does this mean that maybe my ISP is blocking the connection?
Oh wow thank you for this tip, this is almost certainly the problem (back when I first set up this PC ipv6 was just getting pushed out with kind of a sloppy landing and I distinctly remember doing some "deep" tweaks to disable it, though I can't remember the specifics)
aside from adblock, are you using a no-script addon or very high security settings in your browser?
I get that when an adblocker is active on my phone (blokada). maybe your router has an adblocker loaded?
the dprk megathread was archived there too so thats good https://archive.is/xpu7e
If your movement depends on a platform, you don't have a movement.
Wtf? Like they're assholes but I genuinely thought they weren't that kind of asshole.
That's just the pretext. Maintaining the credibility of the taboo of private property seems to be the focus of effort right now. I suspect they've already slipped into a credibility trap, and further suspect that they're not fully aware of having done so.
I like this thread too, lots of useful info.
https://www.reddit.com/r/communism/comments/jbcomt/studying_china_a_resource_for_political_economy/
What is "resource content" and what is the justification for removing it?
Use of "admins" usually indicates a reference to the owners and administrators of reddit itself as a whole rather than "mods" of the sub, locally. The people who own reddit are reactionaries, capitalists, and silicon valley techbros at best and outright fascists at worst. They would ban communists spaces and erase our resources for the same reason they banned the old chapo sub: they don't want collectivist ideology to spread, and don't even want to allow for any pushback whatsoever against reactionary/neoliberal discourse site-wide. Non-socialists always have to act to suppress leftist discourse because it is really the only sane ideological slant that is humane, and is generally agreeable to the majority of people once they can start to see past indoctrination and propaganda. It is discussed elsewhere, but people have noted distinct rightward shifts in the discourse of all sorts of subs since r/cth was banned. It is no surprise that it finally got quarantined and ultimately banned after it started to make waves on the front page of r/all. If you are able to look back at some of the charts, r/cth was basically experiencing exponential growth in terms of its readership.
I understand why they want to ban it, I don't understand the justification.
There is no justification. This content was silently removed and is showing on third party removal sites as "spam filter" which indicates reddit's admin team manually did it as the spam filter doesn't automatically remove old extremely popular posts.
I've reached out and asked the mod team but not yet received a response, doubt they will want to rush a any public response if they're now being targeted and want to try and keep the community.
Ah, I haven't seen a justification for it yet, not that they really need to give one. They did the chapo banwave with a "both sides" argument. What I can tell you is that the megathread was originally posted by one u/albanianbolshevik (see here) and that that account has been "suspended" (which I think means banned by the admins) see here. TBH for all we know, it could have simply been automatically removed due to the user's ban.
Because, like the poster you dismissed said, it's uncovering imperialist lies.
