mate, the US genocided them and took everything they once had and has subjugated them for centuries. you're not internalizing that idea if you think it's possible for anyone to feel welcome in a society that has done that to their people again and again. do you know how many times we promised that this last time was the last and that we won't do it again, that we'll be peaceable from now on? this is so deeply chauvinistic and I encourage you to think hard about why you feel what you do.
You can't practically expect tens of millions of people to give up their homes for the sake of someone else out of, what, the goodness of their heart? You may as well try to revive Lenin instead with how likely that is to happen.
This ^^ huge portions of land are owned by the current federal US government that could be easily ceeded. Lands that are owned by first nations can still have white people in them, as citizens of those nations, we aren't building ethnostates. It's also not like first people will demand the destruction of existing infrastructure, what's more, because of climate change we will need to have mass movement / transplantation of people away from the coasts and the equator. We can use this opportunity to rip out the roots of settler kkklonialism. People are gonna have to move anyways.
You are reading more into what I said than what I meant. I am not talking about a reformist approach, I was really only thinking about the idea of forcing hundreds of millions in the USA to pack up their bags and leave the Americas. I didn't articulate that well and that's my bad. When I talk about a country I think in terms of the people instead of the government which is a bad habit as the will of the people living within a government isn't reflective of how the government operates. I don't think it would be productive to force hundreds of millions of non-natives to pack their bags and leave. I think the better solution is for us to work together and to honor their wishes.
mate, the US genocided them and took everything they once had and has subjugated them for centuries. you're not internalizing that idea if you think it's possible for anyone to feel welcome in a society that has done that to their people again and again. do you know how many times we promised that this last time was the last and that we won't do it again, that we'll be peaceable from now on? this is so deeply chauvinistic and I encourage you to think hard about why you feel what you do.
You can't practically expect tens of millions of people to give up their homes for the sake of someone else out of, what, the goodness of their heart? You may as well try to revive Lenin instead with how likely that is to happen.
I dont think its about taking individual persons’ houses, its about giving sovereignty back to the people to whom it rightfully belongs
But how does that work in practice? Like, what material changes will actually be made?
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This ^^ huge portions of land are owned by the current federal US government that could be easily ceeded. Lands that are owned by first nations can still have white people in them, as citizens of those nations, we aren't building ethnostates. It's also not like first people will demand the destruction of existing infrastructure, what's more, because of climate change we will need to have mass movement / transplantation of people away from the coasts and the equator. We can use this opportunity to rip out the roots of settler kkklonialism. People are gonna have to move anyways.
Not gonna lie I'm also kind of unclear on this and would really appreciate an explanation
I am understanding now that this is not what was being suggested and it makes me feel like a big dumb dumb. Thanks for the understanding.
You are reading more into what I said than what I meant. I am not talking about a reformist approach, I was really only thinking about the idea of forcing hundreds of millions in the USA to pack up their bags and leave the Americas. I didn't articulate that well and that's my bad. When I talk about a country I think in terms of the people instead of the government which is a bad habit as the will of the people living within a government isn't reflective of how the government operates. I don't think it would be productive to force hundreds of millions of non-natives to pack their bags and leave. I think the better solution is for us to work together and to honor their wishes.